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Mass rallies rarely happen on their own - they require donations and funding. It turns out that the organization funding pro hashtag#HamasIsis rallies in hashtag#NYC is no other than Goldman Sachs which gave $18M to the People Forum calling for genocide against Jews
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Mass rallies rarely happen on their own - they require donations and funding. It turns out that the organization funding pro hashtag#HamasIsis rallies in hashtag#NYC is no other than Goldman Sachs which gave $18M to the People Forum calling for genocide against Jews
The past two months has been a surreal experience for me.
Towards the end of April, I started seeing a growing number of students holding up signs, setting up tents, and demanding for change in front of my university’s main library. Stop the genocide. Divest from Israel. Free Palestine. Even from within the library, I was able to see their signs, hear their chants, and see students and faculties publicly pushing the university to act. In my grad student group chat, I saw several people I respect in my office throwing their support behind the protest and some of them even joined the encampment. The narratives told by the pro-Palestine protestors strongly suggested that this was the just cause and news headlines certainly did appear to lend support for this viewpoint.
The major problem was that I wasn’t at all informed about the conflict. So I took some time to read books and papers about the problem. Chomsky’s book on Palestine and Oxford’s Very Short Introduction on this topic among others helped me understand the grievances from the Palestine side. There were legitimate concerns raised and I sympathized.
Yet I simultaneously found the pro-Palestine narrative increasingly disturbing. Contrary to the image of weak, fumbling, peace-loving saints trying to dodge bullets and bombs launched by the aggressor state Israel, the track record of Palestine-Israel isn’t the story of one-sided aggression. In fact, significant fraction of Palestinians endorse fundamentalist set of value incompatible with much of modern world. From their attempts to overthrow the government of every country that took them in as refugees to not only approving but also celebrating October 7th atrocity, I couldn’t help but lose any hope for standing on their side.
When a friend asked whether I will join the protest I declined citing October 7th attack. She was highly disappointed that I am not standing up for the oppressed victims of western colonialism and that any morally conscious person would see that what is going on is a genocide. She explained that Penn is profiting from genocide and it is our moral duty to stop this. After detailing the history of oppression by Israel, she even introduced me to several encampment people and I heard the similar narrative echoed.
The conversation with the protestors, however, ended up further alienating me from the movement. I failed to see how several institutions selling their stakes in defense companies to indifferent owners make any difference. I failed to see how anyone could justify the atrocities on October 7th. I fail to see how protestors calling “globalize intifada”, waiving flags of designated terrorist organizations, demanding closure of largest Jewish organization on campus for their ties to Israel, and arguing that we should use violence and in some cases murder Zionists is at all a morally acceptable stance. When questioned about these behaviors I find repulsive, they said “it’s for the greater cause”.
Ultimately, the university disbanded the encampment. The protestors claimed the university has broken the right to protest. I view this situation differently. You cannot pair a protected right with another action that violates the rules and claim you have immunity from consequences because of your protected rights. I am glad university took action to return the campus to a safer, productive, and more intellectually honest state.
After several encampment participants were barred from attending university commencement, the protestors went on to hold their alternative graduation where awards like “most likely to shot put a Zionist” were given out.
Other protestors may be different but I don’t view these protestors on my campus very favorably.
Colleges and Universities are supposed to be institutions of LEARNING.
Accordingly, those agitators not actively engaged in studying and refusing to be instructed in their lessons need their student loans and financial aid/ grants frozen and their status as students suspended.
We also need to condition on-campus housing with a minimum GPA and time spent in actual study. If your grades are slipping due to agitating on matters of foreign affairs, you must not be wanting that degree too much !
Lastly, those on student visas should be deported when caught rallying for Hamas. Initially, a fair amount of protests on campus were sincerely peaceful and focused on concern for civilian lives. Beginning in like November of last year, the legitimate protests eventually all got subsumed/ submerged into the violent ones, so the movement has lost its credibility.
Note: when I say “legitimate” I'm referring to the conduct of students, not the validity of “the Palestinian Cause” [which is invalid because its a non-starter ]
Many students just saw suffering and were affected by it. Unfortunately, we were never educated as to the complex history of conflict in the region, and so many of us had sincere intentions, but were applying the facts incorrectly because we didn't know any better. The movement is actually underwritten, orchestrated, strategized and funded by anarcho-marxist elements working in concert with pro-islamist contingents like CAIR [ Council on American Islamic Relations ]. CAIR needs to be designated as a Hate group for its celebration of terrorism.
Their goalposts is nothing to do with “Helping Palestine” else the organizers would be calling to Free Palestine from Hamas. The aim of the movement is the same as BLM: destruction of society from within and at all levels.
Post October 7th: The marxist puppeteers just found a new cause to cloak their project in. It's the same old pig in a new dress.
https://www.allsides.com/news/2024-06-12-1115/general-news-palestinian-supporters-vandalize-homes-brooklyn-museum-officials-0
Jun 27th 2024
·https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-feel-about-pro-Palestinian-student-protests-at-universities-in-the-US-UK-and-France
“Every mass movement is in a sense a migration—a movement toward a promised land; and, when feasible and expedient, an actual migration takes place. This happened in the case of the Puritans, Anabaptists, Mormons, Dukhobors and Zionists. Migration, in the mass, strengthens the spirit and unity of a movement; and whether in the form of foreign conquest, crusade, pilgrimage or settlement of new land it is practiced by most active mass movements.“ -Eric Hoffer, The True Believer
https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-feel-about-pro-Palestinian-student-protests-at-universities-in-the-US-UK-and-France
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